This is my space to share my quest to collect as many broken branches as I can in my fractured family tree which resembles a bramble bush more then a proper tree. As I go forward in this blogging journey I hope to share how I have searched far & wide for family - with no regard for where they come from or if I should really want them.
You can pick your friends, but you can't pick your family you know!

Showing posts with label Solomon Bayes. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Solomon Bayes. Show all posts

Wednesday, July 2, 2025

Massey Ferguson ~ It's The Family Business

 52 Ancestors in 52 Weeks 2025: Week 27 (FAMILY BUSINESS)


This is week 8 of my blogging style switch

For the next several weeks I will post a photo and a brief description. 

This new style of posting is due to CMC Arthroplasty surgery on my left thumb. 

I will continue with this style until my thumb has sufficiently recovered.

~


A few years ago Chris' cousin gifted this framed photo collection to him. Each of the letters is special to the family is some way. 

All the years while Chris was growing up his Grandpa Lyle owned the Massey Ferguson Dealership. 

When I first met Chris it was one of the first family facts he shared with me.  

Chris worked one summer for his grandfather Tobacco Farming.

He was very proud of all his grandfather accomplished.

For this reason it was my immediate thought for the prompt Family Business.

The R in the photo above is from the Massey Ferguson dealership signage.

When Chris and I met & he told me his stories, I had no idea I was related to Daniel Massey who was one of the founders of what would eventually become Massey Ferguson.

That knowledge appeared in an email from WikiTree telling me how I was connected.


Daniel Massey 
Birth 24 FEB 1798 • Windsor, Windsor County, Vermont, USA
Death 15 NOV 1856 • Newcastle, Durham, Ontario, Canada

As often happens with WikiTree Connections Daniel is not directly related. We are in the same general neighbourhood of this Bramble Bush.

Daniel is the Brother-In-Law of my 4th Great Aunt:
Rachael Merrill
Birth 5 FEB 1795 • Waterdown, New York, United States
Death 1 JAN 1878 • Haldimand, Northumberland, Ontario, Canada
married Daniel's brother
Jonathan Massey
Birth 23 JUL 1792 • Windsor, Windsor, Vermont, USA
Death 9 AUG 1834 • Haldimand, Northumberland, Ontario, Canada

The family connections do not end there.

Daniel Massey married
Lucinda Bradley
Birth 24 MAR 1803 • Watertown, Jefferson, New York, USA
Death 3 MAR 1872 • Newcastle, Ontario, Canada

Lucinda is sister of 
Drusilla Bradley
Birth 14 SEPT. 1815 • Haldimand, Northumberland, Ontario, Canada
Death 1 FEB 1902 • Haldimand, Northumberland, Ontario, Canada

Lucinda was married to my 4th great Uncle
Thomas Harrison Tuck
Birth 22 MAY 1816 • Sharrington, Norfolk, England
Death 9 JAN. 1865 • Eddystone, Haldimand Township, Ontario, Canada

Thomas' sister is my 4th great grandmother
Mary Ann Tuck
Birth 15 JAN 1823 • Sharrington, Norfolk, England
Death 28 JAN 1908 • Cramahe, Northumberland, Ontario, Canada

married to my 4th great grandfather
Solomon Bayes
Birth 26 NOV 1815 • Hunworth, Norfolk, England
Death 25 OCT 1882 • Northumberland, Ontario, Canada

Finding the areas where both sides of this Bramble Bush intersect!!! 



This is why I search - 


Cause ... 





You can pick your friends, but you can't pick your family you know!







***Any errors are my own. Please send me any updates or corrections via the comments at the bottom of this blog post***


 


Photos:

Personal


Links:

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https://www.amyjohnsoncrow.com/52-ancestors-in-52-weeks/



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Wednesday, October 30, 2024

Looking For Elizabeth ~ Nee Alexander and/or Saunders

 52 Ancestors in 52 Weeks 2024: Week 44 (CHALLENGING)


My 5th great grandfather on my mother's maternal line is:

Samuel Bayes
Birth: ABT. 1778 • Thornage, Norfolk, England
Baptized: 2 Sep 1778 • Thornage, Norfolk, England
Death: ABT 1818 • Hunworth, Norfolk, , England
Buried: 21 Jul 1818 • Hunworth, Norfolk, England

His wife (my 5th great grandmother has been challenging to research.

I have her recorded in my tree as:

Elizabeth Alexander
Birth ABT 1784 • , Norfolk, England
Death JAN 1866 • Burgh, Norfolk, England, UK

On their marriage registry she is named Elizabeth Alexander.

She is also Elizabeth Alexander on 1st child Rosemond's birth registry.

I added a sister for Elizabeth, Rosemond (Rose) Alexander, guessing the witness on their marriage registry was her sister.

Searching further with this added sibling has not resulted in any more details or documents.

All later children she is listed as Elizabeth Saunders

One of my DNA matched cousins wonders if these were two different Elizabeths. 

Proposing that Elizabeth Saunders was a 2nd wife who was born in 1786, and the mother of the children born 1809 onward. 

If they were 2 Elizabeths we can confidently say both were married to Samuel because we have DNA matches between 5 of the children: John, Celia, Samuel, Solomon (my X4 GG), and James. 

My 4th great grandfather was the 9th, of 10 children.

In the proposed two Elizabeths theories he would have be born to Elizabeth Saunders.

Solomon Bayes
Birth 26 NOV 1815 • Hunworth, Norfolk, , England
Death 25 OCT 1882 • Northumberland, , Ontario, Canada
married to 4th great grandmother
Mary Ann Tuck
Birth 15 JAN 1823 • Sharrington, Norfolk, England
Death 28 JAN 1908 • Cramahe, Northumberland County, Ontario, Canada



This week I took a closer look at the shared DNA for all of the descendants through the 5 listed above. 

All of the matches were found to have the appropriate amount for full siblings. 

The mystery of who exactly Elizabeth Alexander/Saunders is remains a mystery.


When your reasonably exhaustive search is still happening !!! 



This is why I search - 


Cause ... 





You can pick your friends, but you can't pick your family you know!







***Any errors are my own. Please send me any updates or corrections via the comments at the bottom of this blog post***



Photos:

Personal


Links:

Amy Johnson Crow, 52 Ancestors in 52 Weeks Challenge
https://www.amyjohnsoncrow.com/52-ancestors-in-52-weeks/



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include a link to the specific blog and
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Friday, September 27, 2024

X4 Great Grandpa ~ Solomon Bayes

 52 Ancestors in 52 Weeks 2024: Week 39 (HOMESTEAD)


I decided to look for the homestead of my Bayes relatives in Campbellford, Ontario. 

According to the 1861 census my 4th great grandparents (with their 12 children were living at "Haldimand, Northumberland, Canada West".

Solomon Bayes
Birth 26 NOV 1815 • Hunworth, Norfolk, , England
Death 25 OCT 1882 • Northumberland, , Ontario, Canada
and
Mary Ann Tuck
Birth 15 JAN 1823 • Sharrington, Norfolk, England
Death 28 JAN 1908 • Cramahe, Northumberland County, Ontario, Canada


Their children on the census were: James, Martha, Solomon, William George, Edward, Emily, Adelaine, Deanah, Rebecca, and Celia. Mary Ann. Rufus, Georgina, and Henrietta were born after 1861.

I then began looking for where exactly they lived, but was not able to pinpoint an actual address.

The census notes they lived in a one story log house, and only their family lived in it. The 1861 census didn't ask if they owned or rented their home that I could find.

I looked at Library & Archives Canada, but was not able to find a land grant for them listed searching by:
- last name Bayes & Bays
- first name Solomon (with a variation of the last name)
- Haldimand Township (with a variation of the name)

I then looked at follow-up census, and was still not able to identify exactly where.

BUT ....

all was not lost

I decided to search for the history of Campbellford, and discovered the local library's archives and historical socities.

I now have many digital sources to look further for my family history.

Learning more about my Bayes ancestors.

My great grandfather, Ernest Elmer Bayes who was known as Hap
Great grandma Rose Honor (nee Dendy) Bayes
Grandma Amy, and her brother Fred



Still looking for the family homestead!!! 



This is why I search - 


Cause ... 





You can pick your friends, but you can't pick your family you know!







***Any errors are my own. Please send me any updates or corrections via the comments at the bottom of this blog post***



Photos:


Personal


Links:

Amy Johnson Crow, 52 Ancestors in 52 Weeks Challenge
https://www.amyjohnsoncrow.com/52-ancestors-in-52-weeks/



If you reference or use my blog posts in any way please
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Tuesday, June 4, 2024

My Family Lives To 100 ~ Until They Don't

 52 Ancestors in 52 Weeks 2024: Week 23 (HEALTH)


As a teenager I would glibly reply that I came from a family that lived to 100 when anyone would wonder about my risk-taking behaviour. 

Me on the left

As an adult I realized that not everyone lived to 100 in my family, and I became a lot more cautious.

This week I decided to look at whether my family really did live to a 100!

My 5th great grandmother, Martha, lived to 105 according to her death registry.


Martha (nee Boulter) Tuck
BIRTH 28 JAN 1779 • Norwich, Norfolk, England
DEATH 24 NOV 1883 • Northumberland, Ontario, Canada

her husband X5 great grandfather, James,  died at age 101 according to his death registry

James Tuck
BIRTH 19 JAN 1780 • Sharrington, Norfolk, England
DEATH 13 JAN 1881 • Cramahe Township, Northumberland, Ontario, Canada

Given the time in history their living to 100 is amazing.

There is some discrepancy on whether their birth dates from England are accurate, but regardless they did live a very long life. 

Many of their descendants lived very long, healthy, independent lives. My maternal grandmother who passed away at age 96 last November is their 3rd great granddaughter. 


Now back to 'my family lives to 100 ... until they don't!'

On the same page as X5 great grandpa James is his granddaughter, Mary Ann Bayes, who passed away at age 19 from heart disease. The death registry says 20. 


I descend through Mary Ann's brother Solomon who died of Cerebral Hemorrhage at age 68.

My risk taking behavour reduced even further when my mother passed away at age 65. 


She was only 18 when I was born. 
In that moment I lost my mom & my belief that I might live to 100. 

I realized that if I died at the same age as my mom I would be gone in 18 years. 

In the years since my head is in a better place ... 
                                    I still miss her fiercely 💔💔
💔



When you might live to 100, but you might not!!! 



This is why I search - 


Cause ... 





You can pick your friends, but you can't pick your family you know!







***Any errors are my own. Please send me any updates or corrections via the comments at the bottom of this blog post***



Sources:

Death Registries clipped from Ancestry June 4th 2024


Photos:

Personal


Links:

Amy Johnson Crow, 52 Ancestors in 52 Weeks Challenge
https://www.amyjohnsoncrow.com/52-ancestors-in-52-weeks/



If you reference or use my blog posts in any way please
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______________________________________________________________

Saturday, February 5, 2022

When 2 Lines Intersect ~ With No Obvious Connections

Branching out or focusing on your direct line?

This is a question every genealogy researcher will have, and each will make their decisions based on their own research goals.

My decision was to branch out right from the start because I honestly didn't know a lot about my side of this Bramble Bush. 

My husband's side is  pretty straight forward. 

Had my side been as easy to research as his I may have opted to just head up with no regard for going sideways. 

This week the benefits of going wide in addition to straight up became clear.

About once a week I check for any new matches to our Ancestry DNA kits.

This week I had a good sized one to grandma. 

Looking at the in common matches I found one that I had put a note in 3.5 years ago. 

In 2018 I reached out to a DNA match asking if I could look at his tree. I explained that my grandma & I matched one of the kits he managed, and grandma and my mom's sister matched the other kit he managed. His reply left us both confused. 

He let me know that Grandma & I matched his mother. 

Grandma and my aunt matched his father. 

His mother and father were not related. 

The match to his mother was super tiny for both of us.
6 cM across 1 segments, Unweighted shared DNA: 6 cM, Longest segment: 6 cM

Grandma passed the segment to my mother unchanged, who passed it to me unchanged. 

I made note that it might just be 'noise', and not a real match. 

It might be endogamy from the intermarriage patterns of the great migration. 

I promptly forgot about the strange connection to his mom.

The match to his father was a good sized match, and the shared connection was easy to place. 

His father is my 4th cousin.
The shared ancestors are:
Samuel Bayes
BIRTH 2 SEP 1778 • Thornage, Norfolk, England
DEATH 21 JUL 1818 • Hunworth, Norfolk, , England
and 
Elizabeth Alexander Saunders
BIRTH 28 OCT 1786 • Attleborough, Norfolk, England
DEATH JAN 1866 • Burgh, Norfolk, England 

After adding his line to our Bramble Bush I had branched out a little further which made adding this week's new match super easy. 

When I was done I stopped back to look at the shared DNA matches, and found another confusing match from 4.5 years ago.

In 2017 I contacted a small match for my grandmother: 22 cM across 2 segments, Unweighted shared DNA: 30 cM, Longest segment: 23 cM.

I was intrigued by her tree because she had my great grandmother's NPE name there, but the match was to my grandma & the NPE is grandpa's line. It was early in my DNA matching research so I hadn't yet found a focus on exactly who to reach out to. 

If this match showed up today I wouldn't bother reaching out.
It's just too small a match to bother with. 

BUT this was at the beginning before I decided how little was too little so I had messaged her. 

We messaged back and forth over the weekend. Then promptly gave up when we both decided there was no possible way we would ever figure out our connection. 

With the new match this week I added more collateral lines, and this match from 2017 slid straight in. 

I messaged her that we are 5th cousins X1 removed.
Our shared ancestors are :
Roger Merrill
BIRTH 1755 • West Hartford, Connecticut, USA
DEATH 1851 • Ontario, Canada
and
Chloe Ann Merry
BIRTH 1773 • Vermont, USA
DEATH 1841 • PERCY TWP,  Ontario, Canada

Fresh off the success I decided maybe I could look at the tiny match from 3.5 years ago to the mother. 

Looking at his mother's line in the tree I discovered a shared surname in England. In looking at my tree I discovered that I had done quite a bit of work on that line over the past 3.5 years, and our connection was easy to see. 

That 6 cM across 1 segments passed unchanged down through two children of 
David Mitchell
BIRTH ABOUT 1770 • England
DEATH OCTOBER 1863 • Dorset, England
and
Arabella Scotney
BIRTH FEB 1769 • Spaulding, England
DEATH 20 FEB 1859 • Framingham, Massachusetts, USA

Me through their son:
James Mitchell
BIRTH ABT 1796 • Wotton, Surrey, England
DEATH Unknown

and my match through their son:
David Mitchell
BIRTH 1 AUG 1794 • Mintern, Dorset, England
DEATH AFTER 1861 • Dorset, England

Are you confused yet?

Let me point out the not so obvious.

A 3rd great granddaughter of David & Arabella (nee Scotney) Mitchell married the 2nd great grandson of Samuel & Elizabeth (nee  Saunders) Bayes on July 24th 1925 in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada. Their daughter is my grandmother. 

AND

A 4th great granddaughter of David & Arabella (nee Scotney) Mitchell married the 3rd great grandson of Samuel & Elizabeth (nee  Saunders) Bayes. She is the small match discovered in 2018. Their son is the manager of the DNA kit that I was messaging with. 

James and Solomon appear to have arrived in the same area of Ontario about the same time, and then James' descendants moved to Michigan, USA while Solomon's stayed in Canada. This is our Bayes connections.

My great grandmother was the first child born in Manitoba, Canada to recent immigrant parents from England in 1906. My match's great grandfather immigrated to Michigan, but appears to have had a stop in Ontario where he got married in 1886. This is our Mitchell connections.

Both families were in England prior to the immigrations noted above. Not all of the family members left England. 

What are the odds of two families intersecting at two very different times & locations without any evidence that they were connected in any way. 

This small match is my 5th cousin X2 removed via my maternal grandmother's mother & her husband is my 4th cousin X2 removed via my maternal grandmother's father. It has taken my 4.5 years to figure this out.




Current me is very pleased with past me who opted to branch out rather than head directly to the top making this confusing find clear as mud.



Pulling together the strands to weave a tapestry that tells the tale!



This is why I search - 


Cause ... 






You can pick your friends, but you can't pick your family you know!









***Any errors are my own. Please send me any updates or corrections via the comments at the bottom of this blog post***




Links:

Amy Johnson Crow, 52 Ancestors in 52 Weeks Challenge
https://www.amyjohnsoncrow.com/



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Friday, April 9, 2021

The Great Migration of Canada ~ This Bramble Bush

   52 Ancestors in 52 Weeks 2021: Week 14 (GREAT)


When I thought about GREAT I immediately thought about the great grandparents that make up this Bramble Bush. 

In searching for the biggest great I started clicking through the top of our lines. I discovered I am only up to about 5th or 6th greats on most of our lines.

 When I first started searching I hit several brick walls. By adding extended family I was able to break through those early brick walls. I decided then that I would not race to the top. I would make sure I added as many family connections as I could before going higher. 

It seems I need to refocus on going higher before going any wider. 

In pondering what else I wanted to write about I stumbled upon THE GREAT MIGRATION OF CANADA, 1815-1850. 

I was intrigued to learn that over 400,000 British citizens left their homes to move to Canada.

What an adventure that must have been. They bravely set off for a land they knew nothing about. After many days at sea they traveled across a new land in search of their new home. 

Their journey resulted in this family calling itself CANADIAN. Their courage and hopes resulted in this Bramble Bush being rooted solidly in Canada.


What a gift I was given by these early immigrants who braved all to come to Canada. 

Each had a story that I do not know, but wish I could have asked before it was too late. 

I was intrigued by a group of Bayes siblings who immigrated to Canada within THE GREAT MIGRATION timeline.

Samuel & Elizabeth had 10 children.  Their children were aged 8 months to 16 when Samuel died.

7 of their children immigrated to Canada: Rosemond, John Christmas, Mary, Ann, Samuel,  Solomon, James (Joseph). One stayed in England: Elizabeth. Two I have not been able to confirm yet: Rebecca & Celia.  

Rebecca and her husband (James Hewitt) appear to have stayed in England, but their daughter was married in Canada when she was 22.

In looking at the movement from England to Canada it's clear the family members moved at different times. I haven't yet found the arrival dates for most of them.  They all ended up in the same general area. Some were married in England before coming to Canada, and some married in Canada. It appears as though not all of the members of this family immigrated to Canada, but a reasonably exhaustive search hasn't yet happened to make this conclusion. 

There are more branches of this Bramble Bush who arrived from Britain during THE GREAT MIGRATION OF CANADA.

This one family is on my maternal grandmother's paternal side.


THE BAYES FAMILY 

The Parents

Samuel Bayes
BIRTH ABT. AUG 1778 • Thornage, Norfolk, England
DEATH 21 JUL 1818 • Hunworth, Norfolk, , England
and
Elizabeth Alexander Saunders
B
IRTH ABT 1784 • , Norfolk, England
DEATH JANUARY 1866 • Burgh, Norfolk, England, UK

The Children

Rosemond Bayes
BIRTH 11 SEP 1801 • Edgefield, Norfolk, England
DEATH 4 JAN 1896 • Haldimand, Northumberland, Ontario, Canada

Rebecca Bayes
BIRTH 10 FEB 1803 • Thornage, Norfolk, , England
DEATH Unknown

John Christmas Bayes
BIRTH DEC 1804 • King’s Lynn, Norfolk, England
DEATH 3 NOV 1877 • Peel, Ontario, Canada

Mary Bayes
BIRTH 6 SEP 1806 • Hunworth, Norfolk, England
DEATH 4 JAN 1896 • Haldimand, Northumberland, Ontario, Canada

Ann Bayes
BIRTH 22 JAN 1809 • Hunworth, Norfolk, England
DEATH 1852 • Hamilton, Hamilton, Ontario, Canada

Celia Bayes
BIRTH 23 SEP 1810 • Hunworth, Norfolk, England
DEATH Unknown

Samuel Bayes
BIRTH 3 APR 1812 • Hunworth, Norfolk, , England
DEATH 20 NOV 1884 • Bidwell, Algoma, Ontario, Canada

Elizabeth Bayes
BIRTH 2 JAN 1814 • Hunworth, Norfolk, England
DEATH DEC 1878 • Holt, Aylsham, Norfolk, England

Solomon Bayes
BIRTH 26 NOV 1815 • Hunworth, Norfolk, , England
DEATH 25 OCT 1882 • Northumberland, , Ontario, Canada

James (Joseph) Bayes
BIRTH NOV 1817 • Norfolk, , England
DEATH 4 MAY 1897 • Forest, Lambton, Ont.

Solomon Bayes is my 4th great grandfather. He was 26 years old when he married 18 year old Mary in Canada. Mary was also born in England. I have not found the date of her arrival in Canada, but she immigrated with her parents and the majority of her siblings. 

Mary Ann Tuck
BIRTH 15 JAN 1823 • Sharrington, Norfolk, England
DEATH 28 JAN 1908 • Cramahe, Northumberland County, Ontario, Canada

Her parents:

James Tuck
BIRTH 19 JAN 1791 • Sharrington, Norfolk, England
DEATH 13 JAN 1881 • Cramahe Township, Northumberland, Ontario, Canada
&
Martha Bolter
BIRTH ABT 1788 • Norwich, Norfolk, England
DEATH 24 NOV 1883 • Northumberland, Ontario, Canada


I will never know the story firsthand of how my people decided to journey to Canada or how difficult their decision & journey was. 

I will always be grateful that I was born into a world where I was safe & free. Their efforts were not squandered by those who came after them.




Grateful to be Canadian!








This is why I search - 




Cause ... 






You can pick your friends, but you can't pick your family you know!

















***Any errors are my own. Please send me any updates or corrections via the comments at the bottom of this blog post***




Sources:


Exodus: Movement of the People Conference, The Great Migration of Canada. Retrieved April 9th 2021 from https://www.exodus2013.co.uk/the-great-migration-of-canada/

Intriguing History, The Great Migration of Canada saw one of the biggest movements of people around the globe1. Retrieved April 9th 2021 from
https://intriguing-history.com/great-migration-of-canada/

xtimeline, 1815-1850 The Great Migration, Retrieved April 9th 2021 from
http://www.xtimeline.com/timeline/Events-leading-up-to-Canadian-Confederacy/1815-1850-The-Great-Migration-1


Links:


Amy Johnson Crow, 52 Ancestors in 52 Weeks Challenge
https://www.amyjohnsoncrow.com/



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include a link to the specific blog and
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Monday, November 23, 2020

Robin Hood's Good Deeds ~ Claiming Friar Tuck as My Own

52 Ancestors in 52 Weeks: 2020 Week 47 (GOOD DEEDS)

This week's we shall focus on Robin Hood's good deeds to honour my relative 
Friar Tuck.


My 6th great grandfather was Henry Tuck from Sharrington, Norfolk, England
                  --- seems close enough to "Sherwood Forrest" to own this family member.

BUT please don't bother checking google maps -- you can just take my word for it


If you are related to me via the Bayes line below ... you get to claim this too  😉

Solomon Bayes (my 4th great grandfather)
BIRTH 26 NOV 1815 • Great Oakley, Northamptonshire, England
DEATH 25 OCT 1882 • Northumberland, , Ontario, Canada
and
Mary Ann Tuck (my 4th great grandmother)
BIRTH 15 JAN 1823 • Sharrington, Norfolk, England
DEATH 28 JAN 1908 • Cramahe, Northumberland County, Ontario, Canada

If you are related to Solomon Bayes you get to claim Friar Tuck as an ancestor OR related by marriage ... in case it was in question for you😉


Mary Ann's parents (my 5th great grandparents) were:
James Tuck
BIRTH 19 JAN 1791 • Sharrington, Norfolk, England
DEATH 13 JAN 1881 • Cramahe Township, Northumberland, Ontario, Canada
and
Martha Bolter
BIRTH ABT 1788 • Norwich, Norfolk, England
DEATH 24 NOV 1883 • Northumberland, Ontario, Canada

Mary Ann's grandparents (my 6th great grandparents) were:
Henry Tuck
BIRTH 18 APR 1770 • Sharrington, Norfolk, England
DEATH 17 SEP 1826 • Sharrington, Norfolk, England
and
Ann Moy
BIRTH MAR 1764 • Sharrington, Norfolk, England
DEATH JUN 1846 • Sharrington, Norfolk, England

Mary Ann's Great Grandparents (my 7th great grandparents) were:
Thomas Tuck
BIRTH ABT 1750 • Norwich, Norfolk, England
DEATH BEFORE 1815 • Norfolk, England
and
Dorothy Huson
BIRTH ABT 1750 • Norfolk, England
DEATH Norfolk, England
 

As you can see I have only tracked the Tuck family back as far as the mid 1700s, and the Robin Hood stories have roots in the 1400s so we can't be sure of the direct relationship to Friar Tuck. BUT I think we have established enough proof to claim this ancestor!!!




BUT then again - the Robin Hood tales are make believe. There is some debate that the characters may have been based on real people. There does seem to be some basis for the character of Friar Tuck to have been based on Robert Stafford. Robert Stafford was a Chaplain who became a thief and may have used the alias Friar Tuck.  BUT the Robin Hood tales really are fiction.

The odds of a TUCK member being part of the Merry Men of Sherwood Forest shenanigans are low.  BUT not non-existent. By the time we arrive back to our 7th great grandparents we have 512 of them. The number of relatives we have who descend through those 512 X7 great grandparents is ginormous.

At least one of those relatives must be the ancestor for our oldest son as depicted in the photo below.

Merry Shenanigans in a Canadian Forest!




In case you were curious about the distance between Sharrington and Sherwood Forest.

Source: Google Maps


Definitely not close, definitely too far to walk, and likely too far to claim the tales of Robin Hood as my own.




Enjoying a little make-believe among the facts!





This is why I search - 

Cause ... 



You can pick your friends, but you can't pick your family you know!









***Any errors are my own. Please send me any updates or corrections via the comments at the bottom of this blog post***







Sources:

A Beginner's Guide to Robin Hood, Friar Tuck, Wright, Allen W. Retrieved November 23rd 2020 from
https://www.boldoutlaw.com/robbeg/friar-tuck-beginners.html

Friar Tuck, International Heroes, Retrieved November 23rd 2020 from
http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/t/tuck.htm

Friar Tuck, Find-A-Grave, Retrieved November 23rd 2020 from
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/4286/friar-tuck

How many ancestors do you have? Retrieved November 23rd 2020 from

Image, Friar Tuck, Old Book Illustrations, Retrieved November 23rd 2020 from
https://www.oldbookillustrations.com/illustrations/friar-tuck/

The Real Robin Hood, The History Channel, Retrieved November 23rd 2020 from
https://www.history.com/topics/british-history/robin-hood

Who Was Friar Tuck? WiseGeek, Retrieved November 23rd 2020 from
https://www.wise-geek.com/who-was-friar-tuck.htm

Links:

Amy Johnson Crow, 52 Ancestors in 52 Weeks Challenge
https://www.amyjohnsoncrow.com/




If you reference or use my blog posts in any way please
include a link to the specific blog and
credit http://somehowrelated.blogspot.com/
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All rights reserved.
Please & Thank you!

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